Monday, July 26, 2010

Stupid Like a Fox

Vicente Fox says a lot of smart things about immigration, Arizona, the Drug War and the climate of fear in this brief interview with the hometown paper. But he also says stuff like this:

What do you think Mexicans have contributed to American culture?
Oh, starting with Mexican food! The jalapeños and the tacos and the rest. I think they have contributed family values. And then we have our culture. When you were killing Indian Apaches there, we had built Mayan cities, the pyramids, Mexico City.

We'll assume Fox is using "we" as a sign of national solidarity, since - as his mother was born in Spain and his grandfather in Ohio - we're not sure he gets to take credit for the pyramids. We'll also ignore the fact that, by the time to US started killing Apaches in earnest in the mid-19th Century, it had actually racked up a few accomplishments of its own - the Constitution, the steam engine boat, and the seizure of half of Mexico's territory come to mind. Instead, we'll just note that of the three accomplishments Fox mentions, the first two had been extinct for centuries and the third, the building of Mexico City, was done by European settlers on the ruins of the great Indian civilization they had systematically exterminated.

But mostly it's annoying because, when it comes to dealing specifically with the Apaches, Mexico hasn't exactly covered herself in glory:

The traditional and sometimes treacherous relationships continued between the [Spanish settlers and Apache bands] with the independence of Mexico in 1821. By 1835 Mexico had placed a bounty on Apache scalps but some bands were still trading with certain villages. When Juan José Compas, the leader of the Mimbreño Apaches, was killed for bounty money in 1837, Mangas Coloradas or Dasoda-hae (Red Sleeves) became principal chief and war leader and began a series of retaliatory raids against the Mexicans.

When the United States went to war against Mexico, many Apache bands promised U.S. soldiers safe passage through their lands. When the U.S. claimed former territories of Mexico in 1846, Mangas Coloradas signed a peace treaty, respecting them as conquerors of the Mexican's land

Finally, Fox doubles down on the idea of destroying a great culture, when he talks about his presidential library in Guanajuato:
Let me give you news. We’re going to have Elton John in October.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

stupid like a burro. the steam engine???

Burro Hall said...

Viva la self-correcting blogosphere.

Anonymous said...

You don't like him because he's a PANista and because he was Bush's friend. Bob

Richard said...

And here all along I thought it was Marta that was the Elton John groupie. Who knew?

Burro Hall said...

Bob - I actually agree with most of what he said, especially the part about Bush being all hat, no cattle, when it came to immigration. But as to your larger point that I might dislike a politician because I disagree with his politics and with the politics of other politicians he considers his friends, well, I guess you got me there.

Bob said...

Fox is a dick and a crook and does not live in Mexico like all ex presidents for fear his own people will kill him. These Mexicans want it both ways where they sew up their southern border with troops but frown upon us when we want to tighten ours up.
Pathetic hispanic culture.hahahahahaah what culture.

Tacos and tequila

Burro Hall said...

Whereas US ex-presidents and their families are surrounded by gun-toting bodyguards for the rest of their lives because they're afraid well-wishers might overwhelm them with rose petals and chocolates.

Fox lives in GTO. His neighbors don't care much for him. Wouldn't be surprised if he owned a place in El Norte as well.

Bob said...

He lives in the Boulders area of Scottdale AZ and when he does go to his property in MX. its just to put an appearance in. As for our leaders, we protect them from the wackoes throughout the world who we have to piss in their cornflakes. I do no ever not want to protect the likes of Clinton or Bush because some of the choices they made to protect us might not be considered right by some,they were the right choices if it put american interests first. Some of their choices might have even protected the likes of you and your ilk.
Of course when you are down there, anything can happen to you but I am sure the local law enforvement will be at the ready..hahahahah

Anonymous said...

Dude, another Scientologist has found your site...Too bad you don't have a filter. It hurts my eyes to read such hateful ignorance alongside your usual humorous and clever insights. It's always bracing to be reminded of what the hoi palloi(irrespective of nation)are really like. Also, I think he means jajajajaja...

Richard said...

... Boulders area of Scottdale AZ?

And, he's reasonably suspicious. Oh won't this be fun!

Burro Hall said...

He's a big guy. Cops will probably want to taze him right away, just to keep him subdued while they search for his papers.

mexicomystic said...

Fee Fi Fo Fum...
I smell the blood of a Troll...
I see Elton is playing in Arizona ^ bad mouthing other performers who are boycotting it and downgrading illegal immigrants.
How unappreciative after using Chapultepec Castle for his hijinks.

Bob said...

Oh my...the spelling police are out in full force ..As I said before in my yanked previous post. At least the Elton called a spade a shovel and said truth about the a-holes in CA.